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Message posted by Web Master on 28January2005 at 11:51pm - IP Logged
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Discuss the two NASCAR Grand National races that occurred in Canada.

Message posted by Robert Barg on 02February2005 at 2:41am - IP Logged
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Just read the Nascar race report from Stamford in 1952 - I was a fourteen year old spectator at this event - had gotten a ride on the back of a motorcycle from a school chum who had invited me along - I remember being quite intrigued by the whole scene (don't remember going to any car races before this one but soon started attending at Merritville Speedway whenever possible) - this event led to an interest in the Indy 500 race and I can remember listening to the Indy 500 in 1953 or 54 on the radio, the year Billy Vukovich was killed at the track in a race accident - later I would get interested in road racing and eventually was able to do some racing myself, and become a lifelong racing addict! So you can see how this one Nascar event had a profound influence on my life - many thanks for rekindling some old memories.


Message posted by Milt on 22February2005 at 12:32am - IP Logged
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Great article, however, you missed several other occassions when the the old Grand National series came to Canada. They made an appearance at the old Capital City Speedway (Lansdowne Park) in Ottawa back in the late 50's/early 60's. Several of the cars that came that evening were convertibles. They also came to race at the now defunct Riverside Speedway in Laval, Quebec around 1963 or 64. The race at Riverside was won by Rex White and Jim Reed, placed second. I know, because I was at both of these races.

For those who are not familiar with the old Riverside Speedway, it was a 1/3 mile paved oval track. The stands were very high and held about 5000 fans. They raced on Thursday nights. Drivers from Ottawa, such as John Derby (Duff's Taxi), Kenny Farmer "The Flying Farmer" (car # 27) came down regularly to race against the such american drivers as Billy Wimble (car #33), Dick Nephew (car # 6 7/8), Ernie Reed (car # 77), Bobby Tromblay (car # 26), Charlie Tromblay (car # 5 7/8), Dick Gudel (car # T800), Jackie Peterson (car # VI), Buck Holiday (car # C-38), Ken Shoemacker (car #111) as well as against such Quebec drivers as Jean Paul Cabana ( car # 5a), Jean-Guy Chartrand (car # 901), Andre Many (car # 27a), Gilles Brochu (car # B-14) just to name a few.

If memory serves me well, the Winston Cup cars also raced at Sanair Speedway in St. Pie, Quebec, which is a 7/8 mile track. The stands hold about 30,000.  

 


Message posted by Web master on 22February2005 at 9:30am - IP Logged
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Quote: Originally posted by Guest on 22 February 2005

 

Great article, however, you missed several other occassions when the the old Grand National series came to Canada. They made an appearance at the old Capital City Speedway (Lansdowne Park) in Ottawa back in the late 50's/early 60's. Several of the cars that came that evening were convertibles. They also came to race at the now defunct Riverside Speedway in Laval, Quebec around 1963 or 64. The race at Riverside was won by Rex White and Jim Reed, placed second. I know, because I was at both of these races.

For those who are not familiar with the old Riverside Speedway, it was a 1/3 mile paved oval track. The stands were very high and held about 5000 fans. They raced on Thursday nights. Drivers from Ottawa, such as John Derby (Duff's Taxi), Kenny Farmer "The Flying Farmer" (car # 27) came down regularly to race against the such american drivers as Billy Wimble (car #33), Dick Nephew (car # 6 7/8), Ernie Reed (car # 77), Bobby Tromblay (car # 26), Charlie Tromblay (car # 5 7/8), Dick Gudel (car # T800), Jackie Peterson (car # VI), Buck Holiday (car # C-38), Ken Shoemacker (car #111) as well as against such Quebec drivers as Jean Paul Cabana ( car # 5a), Jean-Guy Chartrand (car # 901), Andre Many (car # 27a), Gilles Brochu (car # B-14) just to name a few.

If memory serves me well, the Winston Cup cars also raced at Sanair Speedway in St. Pie, Quebec, which is a 7/8 mile track. The stands hold about 30,000.  

 


Thoe races you are referring to were not official NASCAR Grand National races. A lot of people believe they saw Grand National races in Canada many years ago but there were only two. It's a very common misconception. I've heard many people claim that NASCAR came regularly to the CNE or wherever.  I had even thought about putting a disclaimer on the article to clear up this misconception (and I probably will now!).

It wasn't unusual  for the GN drivers to travel to special events in Canada. There was also a NASCAR Sportsman touring series in the 1960's that often ran in Quebec. I'm going to try to cover that series in a future article.

An online reference:

http://www.racing-reference.com/tracks.htm then go Former Nextel Cup tracks. The only ones in Canada are the CNE and Stamford Park.

Here's another:

http://jacobsusa.com/cjsspeed/nascar/nasyearbyyear.htm

There are also several books on the history of NASCAR that cover the GN / Winston Cup / Nextel seasons year-by-year to use as reference.

Regarding Sanair - there was lots of talk that a GN would be held there but there never was. NASCAR North ran there several times though.

 


 


Message posted by Aljo on 23March2005 at 9:25pm - IP Logged
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Quote: Originally posted by Guest on 22 February 2005

 

Great article, however, you missed several other occassions when the the old Grand National series came to Canada. They made an appearance at the old Capital City Speedway (Lansdowne Park) in Ottawa back in the late 50's/early 60's. Several of the cars that came that evening were convertibles. They also came to race at the now defunct Riverside Speedway in Laval, Quebec around 1963 or 64. The race at Riverside was won by Rex White and Jim Reed, placed second. I know, because I was at both of these races.

For those who are not familiar with the old Riverside Speedway, it was a 1/3 mile paved oval track. The stands were very high and held about 5000 fans. They raced on Thursday nights. Drivers from Ottawa, such as John Derby (Duff's Taxi), Kenny Farmer "The Flying Farmer" (car # 27) came down regularly to race against the such american drivers as Billy Wimble (car #33), Dick Nephew (car # 6 7/8), Ernie Reed (car # 77), Bobby Tromblay (car # 26), Charlie Tromblay (car # 5 7/8), Dick Gudel (car # T800), Jackie Peterson (car # VI), Buck Holiday (car # C-38), Ken Shoemacker (car #111) as well as against such Quebec drivers as Jean Paul Cabana ( car # 5a), Jean-Guy Chartrand (car # 901), Andre Many (car # 27a), Gilles Brochu (car # B-14) just to name a few.

If memory serves me well, the Winston Cup cars also raced at Sanair Speedway in St. Pie, Quebec, which is a 7/8 mile track. The stands hold about 30,000.  

 


Do you recall other drivers. I used to go there with my dad and I was routing for Paul Hamel car #66, there was also Gilles Loiselle with car #6 (not sure though). I don't know if you know any sites that would talked about this period?

Message posted by Marty Little on 29March2005 at 9:15pm - IP Logged
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I am looking for photos of a cutdown coupe as raced by Gilles Brochu in the early 60s. I believe it was bright red and carried his usual B-14 number. Please email me - racehistry@aol.com  thank you.

Marty Little


Message posted by glenn jarvis on 10April2005 at 12:19pm - IP Logged
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Hi -- i remember being at the nascar race in 1952 with my father. One thing I remember was one of the Hudson's turning over one one of the turns and the back window poping out. I don/t think this cause an accident that I can remember.

jarvis@vianet.on.ca

Message posted by Richard Chartrand on 10April2005 at 4:34pm - IP Logged
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Quote: Originally posted by Guest on 23 March 2005
Quote: Originally posted by Guest on 22 February 2005

 

Great article, however, you missed several other occassions when the the old Grand National series came to Canada. They made an appearance at the old Capital City Speedway (Lansdowne Park) in Ottawa back in the late 50's/early 60's. Several of the cars that came that evening were convertibles. They also came to race at the now defunct Riverside Speedway in Laval, Quebec around 1963 or 64. The race at Riverside was won by Rex White and Jim Reed, placed second. I know, because I was at both of these races.

For those who are not familiar with the old Riverside Speedway, it was a 1/3 mile paved oval track. The stands were very high and held about 5000 fans. They raced on Thursday nights. Drivers from Ottawa, such as John Derby (Duff's Taxi), Kenny Farmer "The Flying Farmer" (car # 27) came down regularly to race against the such american drivers as Billy Wimble (car #33), Dick Nephew (car # 6 7/8), Ernie Reed (car # 77), Bobby Tromblay (car # 26), Charlie Tromblay (car # 5 7/8), Dick Gudel (car # T800), Jackie Peterson (car # VI), Buck Holiday (car # C-38), Ken Shoemacker (car #111) as well as against such Quebec drivers as Jean Paul Cabana ( car # 5a), Jean-Guy Chartrand (car # 901), Andre Many (car # 27a), Gilles Brochu (car # B-14) just to name a few.

If memory serves me well, the Winston Cup cars also raced at Sanair Speedway in St. Pie, Quebec, which is a 7/8 mile track. The stands hold about 30,000.  

 


Do you recall other drivers. I used to go there with my dad and I was routing for Paul Hamel car #66, there was also Gilles Loiselle with car #6 (not sure though). I don't know if you know any sites that would talked about this period?

Go to " stockcarquebec.com " , they have pictures of everyone that has driven a stock car in Quebec , from the 50' s to today ! Great site.... But you gotta know you' r  French.....Enjoy!

Message posted by dransom@bellsouth.net on 31July2005 at 5:39pm - IP Logged
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i beleive that i have pictures of this race, there are fourteen on them that I have aquired, and they are of Buddy Shuman, and him standing next to his car. there is also a picture of a race tower of that era,

don't have a problem sharing them with anyone.

the pictures are  8 x 10 and black and white, framed


Message posted by dransom@carolina.rr.com on 31July2005 at 5:48pm - IP Logged
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Message posted by nate salter on 22September2005 at 6:20pm - IP Logged
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Regarding the article on racing in 1958 at the CNE.  The Nascar Sweepstakes division raced at the CNE in 1952-1959.  I have footage taken in 1952 with my dear Friend the late Norm Brioux in the James Cook motors Jaguar. and Len Hurley in the Gorries 1952 Oldmobile.  The following year  my dear friend Wallie Branston, who is alive and well at 83 ran a brand new 1953 Old sponsored by Gorries in the Nascar race at the CNE.  I also have footage of the race and colour footage of Wallie practicing the car prior to the race.

You are correct in the fact that Richard Petty started his driving career at the CNE at the 1958 race and in fact Lee put him into the wall because he was leading the race and Richard was getting in the way.  The 57 Oldsmobile convertible that Richard was driving at the CNE is the same car he ran at the very first Daytona 500 in 1959 and he was the first retiree from the event with a blown motor.

This coming May, under the aegis of the Canadian Motorsport Hall of Fame, I will be presenting an event called the "END OF THE GOLDEN YEARS" in that it has been 40 years since racing took place at the ex and 30 years since they closed Pinecrest.   This event is just in the planning stages now [ Sept 05] but will be open to any driver or crew member who competed at either track during the 1952-1976 era.  The event will take place at the home of the Canadian Motorsport Hall of Fame on the CNE grounds about 1000 feet from where the speedway stood.  More information will follow as plans get firmed up.   If any of you were at the 50th anniversary celebration of the opening of the CNE track in 2002 or at the Pinecrest Speedway reunion in 2004 then you know that this will be a great opportunity to meet many of those friends and competitors that you followed during the Golden Years of Stock Car Racing in Toronto.

In case you don't have a copy of my book "The Golden Years of Stock Car Racing in Toronto 1952-1966, you can order same from me

for more information, or to register or order a book please contact me at  honest.nate@sympatico.ca


Message posted by Web master on 22September2005 at 8:04pm - IP Logged
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Nate,

Thanks for posting the info on the upcoming CNE / Pinecrest event. I've been meaning to contact you for a while and now I will!

 

 


Message posted by fmattoon on 25August2008 at 2:45pm - IP Logged
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I will never forget the battles among these old greats and the croud reaction when an outsider would come to our track like Rene Charland. The audience was a truly international one speaking two languages. Great time in my young life.

Message posted by jim bray on 03April2010 at 11:39am - IP Logged
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the NASCAR grand national races refered to at the C.N.E. & in  Quebec including  running from 1952 to 1960 at the C.N.E., excluding 1959, were Grand Natioinal Short Track  division races a division for races on tracks less than one half mile for GN cars with a separate sanctioning fee @ separate champions. Jim Reed won many  For example  Chev had  separate drivers for the short track g n divison being  Rex  White &    Frank  Schneider,  Ford had Reed   The sweepstakes races referred to by someone were for gn cars & convertibles together. The first Daytona 500  was a Sweepstakes race. there were no sweepstakes races held in Canada although there was one convertible race at the CNE won by Don Oldenburg in a 55 Buick. The only convertible race won that year by a year old car. As an interesting sidenote, in 1960, the drivers were told that since the track had been changed from the 58 venue to a much tighter track & they were racing in Montreal the next night the payoff was based on qualifying rather than race finish so the drivers could save thier cars. They had an inverted start but Jim Reed told me that he "came to race" so he still won. Maybe you had to be there  JB 

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