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Message posted by Web Master on 03 March 2007 at 1:42pm - IP Logged
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Discuss your memories of the CNE Speedway.

Message posted by bOb on 03 March 2007 at 2:31pm - IP Logged
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Thank you for the excellent walk down memory lane. Reading about Ernie Lieberman, Tommy McClure, Glen Schurr, Jack Greedy and McCutcheon, Ted Hogan, Mackereth, Witter and Howard, and seeing the historic pictures sure makes one yearn for the past. I was there for most of those early years, and if memory serves correctly, they were the best. Although I was very young for the earliest days of the CNE, I evenutally became involved in "supermodified" racing, and I remain involved with the Can-Am TQ Midget club. It always amazes me to see the legacy of some of the early pioneers caried on by subsequent generations. The racing today is great, but it will never compare with the memories from those early days. 

Message posted by wayne bratton on 07 March 2007 at 9:31pm - IP Logged
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Gee,thank you so much for such a great article.It was so nice to read about all the great drivers who ran at the C. N. E..The memories will be with me for the rest of my life.My all time favourite drivers were Ted Hogan and Jack Cook.

Thank you again for bring back the memories.


Message posted by Gasolinie on 08 March 2007 at 3:47pm - IP Logged
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Another great article. I love the pictures too. It's to bad that there is no racing in the GTA anymore. I guess Mosport is the closest thing.

Message posted by Bruce Rossiter on 10 March 2007 at 2:41pm - IP Logged
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What a great article. I really enjoyed reading about the CNE and it brought back so many memories of the many times my father took me to see the races. Ted Hogan was my hero and back in those days you were either a Ted Hogan or a Jim Howard fan. Thanks for keeping the memories alive.

Message posted by Gary on 12 March 2007 at 9:50am - IP Logged
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I was around 7 or 8 years old when my father took me to the CNE (1962-63) and didn't realize back then that I would be witness to the great legendary drivers of the era.  The images of Gary Witter driving around in a short sleeve white tee shirt ( in what seemd like a cold damp day) or the hot dog vendor selling us a boiled dog with a steamed bum are forever burned into my mind.

The Super Modifieds had so many different looks back then, nobody knew what  would really work.  I can still remember the first time I ever saw a wing on a car (Howie Scannell if memory serves me correct) at the CNE and for the life of me, couldn't figure out what it was suppose to do.  Who would believe that a low buck car like Jim Howard could compete against the high buck cars of Jack Greedy or Harv Lennox?  Is there any way you could post more pictures from the CNE? It would be great to see more of them!

 


Message posted by Here_and_back on 26 April 2007 at 8:32am - IP Logged
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I may have the largest collection of pictures and aticles of racing at the CNE that exsists . I have somewhere around 400 pics and over 100 articles , some are being used on this site already with out my permission .

One thing I find curious in articles such as this is they have no author and I find this very troubling to say the lest .

If you are interested in contacting me my current Email is bumkin@sympatico.ca

Message posted by Web master on 26 April 2007 at 10:05am - IP Logged
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Quote: Originally posted by Guest on 26 April 2007
I may have the largest collection of pictures and aticles of racing at the CNE that exsists . I have somewhere around 400 pics and over 100 articles , some are being used on this site already with out my permission .

One thing I find curious in articles such as this is they have no author and I find this very troubling to say the lest .

If you are interested in contacting me my current Email is bumkin@sympatico.ca

Unless otherwise noted, the web master is the author of the articles on this site.

Regarding the photos - I have a disclaimer at the top of the article regarding the copyright. I'll contact you by e-mail.


 


Message posted by bOb on 26 June 2007 at 8:47pm - IP Logged
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It is amazing that between 1958 and 1960 the CNE averaged more than 8,600 fans each and every night. Even if admission was only $2.00, the ticket sales raked in over $17,000 per night. Sometimes there were more than 14,000 people in attendance. Ernie Lieberman was certainly not depending on his back gate to pay the purse, and his hotdog, Coke, cotton candy and popcorn sales must have been incredible.  

Message posted by James Tapp on 28 September 2007 at 12:27am - IP Logged
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 As a boy in grade 5, my brother and I would ride the Red Rocket from the Lakeshore Loop and go to the CNE Stock Car races quite often. One time we went , there was a demolition derby after racing. The cars entered the track, and one car caught my eye. It was a 1939 Ford Coupe, and thought the guy was crazy to want to smash it! Luckily the car stalled and did not make it. I hoped someone bought it and fixed it up! Later in life I found out my father-in-law raced a '38 Ford stockcar there! Thanks for a great website!


Message posted by Sharon on 07 October 2007 at 8:35am - IP Logged
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What a great website!  The articles and pics bring back many happy childhood memories of sitting in the stands cheering for Jimmy Howard and Gary Witter, playing with the kids on Burlington beach while our Dads worked on Jimmy's stockcar in his garage and go-carting at the Witter farm.  Does anyone remember my Dad, "Larry" Lawrence?  He passed on in his 72nd year in 1995.  I've been trying to find pictures and located some of the first stockcar (#199) he built and raced at Ancaster Fairgrounds in Hamilton and have an absolutely awsome 8 x 10 of the #38 stockcar with Jimmy, Gary, my Dad and 4 other pit crew posing.  I was in the stands at the CNE when Ted Hogan's death announcement was made ... first there was a hush and then people around me started sobbing out loud.  I also remember going to Pinecrest Speedway and being warned by my Mom (Betty) not to cheer out loud for fear of being mobbed by Pinecrest fans who hated CNE fans!  Anyhow, thanks for the memories.  Happy to hear from anyone about my Dad.

Message posted by STEVE ALLISON on 04 December 2007 at 9:52pm - IP Logged
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I RECENTLY MET JACK COOKS DAUGHTER JACKIE ON A TRIP TO CANCUN. I AM FROM THE UNITED STATES ,OKLAHOMA. I RACED IN THE MINOR LEAGES OF NASCAR IN THE LATE 90'S SO ME AND JACKIE HIT IT OFF AND A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. I WOULD LOVE TO FIND SOME OLD RACING PHOTOS OF HER FATHER FOR HER AS A SURPRISE. IF ANY OF YOU GUY'S HAVE ANY COULD YOU POSSIBLY E-MAIL THEM TO ME. MY NAME IS STEVE ALLISON AND MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS bestbuy@valornet.com   THANK'S FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME.

Message posted by sharon on 04 December 2007 at 10:38pm - IP Logged
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In response to Steve Allison regarding Jack Cook.  I found hundreds of old photos on the following website (unfortunately, you have to scroll through them individually) it's http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/RACEGOD/ You won't regret visiting this site....most of the pics are captioned.

Message posted by Tommaso on 07 August 2008 at 5:32am - IP Logged
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I found a bunch of great old snapshots and larger photo's of the CNE around 1957 to 1964 that some of you might be interested in seeing.  I found them at 'Value Village' here in Hamilton if you can believe that!  Who would get rid of such great memories?!  There are pictures of Jimmy Howard, Ted Hogan, Witter, there cars, Bill Burr and many more.  I even have a photo of Howard and his grandson and one of Hogan just before his plane crash at a wedding. He is posing with a lady named Mary Engal.  If anyone would be intrested in seeing them, email me at altcomputersales@hotmail.com and I would be glad to show you them.  Also, I would love to know who they belong too so I can reunite them with the proper family.  I collect photos and seem to find them in the strangest of places. 

Also I just wanted to say I enjoyed the site.  May be some of the pictures you could use for it?  Just a thought...

Tommaso  


Message posted by cms_1920 on 02 October 2008 at 11:42am - IP Logged
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I am putting together a list of drivers that competed at the CNE or Pinecrest during the 50's, 60's and 70's.
If anyone has driver rosters or race results from that era and could scan them and email them to me with the year or race date, it would be very much appreciated. If you have info on special events that took place at those tracks during that era please send it along as well.
 
Thanks,
 
Ed Butt

Message posted by Ed Butt on 21 October 2008 at 9:48pm - IP Logged
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In January 2009 during the Canadian Motorsports Expo, the show will host a reunion for drivers, crews and officials from the CNE and Pinecrest Speedways. This trip down “Stock Car Memory Lane” will be open to everyone attending the show. Fans will hear some of the heros of the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s auto racing scene, recall memories and rehash stories from a period of time that unfortunately will never again be duplicated in the City of Toronto. In addition, memorabilia from both tracks will be on display all weekend. The Expo will be held at the Toronto International Centre, Airport Road on January 16th thru 18th, 2009. The exact time of the reunion will be announced at a later date pending completion of some final details. Updates will be posted on this forum and at www.canadianmotorsportsexpo.com

Message posted by Mike Mayo on 20 April 2009 at 3:17pm - IP Logged
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My father Duncan Mayo raced at the CNE, Streetsville, Pinecrest and Oshawa back in the day, 1952 to 1955 I think. I have heard all these names over the years but this is my first time on this sight and it brings back memories. Dad even ran his own track back in the late 60's just outside of Belleville called Tyendinaga Speedway for 3 or 4 seasons. Dad is gone now but I wonder if anyone out there has any old photos, stories, articles about my dad. They would be greatly appreciated. My email is mike.mayo@symaptico.ca. Thanks to anyone in advance who does happen to repond.

Mike


Message posted by Robert on 07 September 2010 at 3:51am - IP Logged
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This brings back so many memories. I started going to the CNE Stock Car Races in the mid 50s. Ted Hogan, Howie Scannell and Jim Howard were my favorites but all the names bring back wonderful memories.
Ted's death really affected me.
I believe the track announcer was Phil Stone and I would mimic him.
My life long interest in racing started there.
I saw my first thrill show at the races in 1958 - Joey Chitwood.   That was a long time ago.
Thanks again.

Message posted by Terry Jolliffe - Belle River on 25 October 2010 at 9:37pm - IP Logged
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The CNE track brings back great childhood memories for me . I grew up in Windsor , my Dad Lived in Oakville after a divorce in mid 50's . I would visit him for a month most summers until my late teens . We would go to one race ...EITHER CNE or Pincrest . He was a Jimmy Howard fan and I , of course , had to be the same . We would cheer for the #38 and later the #19 of Gary Witter , Howards protege .

I do remember the big Championship race in 1963 when Howard and Witter sat 1-2 to start . I think Harv Lennox went on to win it much to our disappointment . We never went to CNE after the 1963 season ...it would be Pinecrest . The very first CNE race I saw with my dad must have been mid 50's as they ran mostly convertibles ....fun to watch the drivers wrestling with the big late models . Seems to me there was a Cadillac and a Volkswagon in the race just to add some fun .

 

Terry Jolliffe


Message posted by Fancycat on 29 May 2011 at 10:24am - IP Logged
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My Dad (Syl Renwick #83) and Uncle (Phil Renwick #84) raced stock cars at the CNE in the early 50's before I was born. I can't find anything on the internet about either of them. Does anyone have any info? I have a few photos, Race Programs and newpaper articles but there must be more than that out there somewhere!

Message posted by cdnmodman on 05 October 2011 at 5:31pm - IP Logged
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Anyone have any pictures of the second supermodified that Doung Duncan and Mike Wells built for Ted Hogan that he ran at the CNE and took to Oswego New York for the International Classic .

Thanks

 


Message posted by klt3 on 27 October 2011 at 10:15pm - IP Logged
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Where could I find pictures of cars that raced at CNE during those years?
Thanks
Kellylynn3@Hotmail.com

Message posted by dobbpat@hotmail.com on 24 January 2012 at 7:02pm - IP Logged
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My proudest moments were watching my dad race at the CNE , Pinecrest and Flamboro.  A few times at Sunset especially the old timers race.  Tom Jones(the rain tire man) # 57 was part of my childhood that I will never forget and always cherish. Both our sons are in racing and I would appreciate any memories or pictures I could share with them.  I do not have any pictures of dad as it was part of a divorce settlement ( I guess she got to burn them) please email me at dobbpat@hotmail.com, I do have memories just not pictures.  Would you beleive 36 years later I am still married to dad's crew chief.  Does anyone remember Dizzy Dean...... I do

Message posted by Grandaughter of Burt Smith on 10 March 2012 at 11:23pm - IP Logged
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My name is Kathleen, my grandfather was The Grand daddy of the race tracks...Burt Smith. My dad also had a super modified and my uncle Danny Kemp raced the car. I grew up in the pits! My Uncle Danny won the Burt Smith Memorial race.

To the person that was talking about the wings on the race cars...my dad built and designed those wings and raced with them I think in Sutton, Then another friend of my dad's built the same wings and raced at the CNE, that same year.

And to the person that wrote about the albums she had found in Hamilton, I would love to see them, mom and dad flew with Ted Hogen at the Oshawa Air Club.. I have lots of pictures and programs from the racing years!


Message posted by Grandaughter of Burt Smith on 10 March 2012 at 11:28pm - IP Logged
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My grandfathers car was # 92, and my dad's was #82, My grandfathers last race was in 1968.

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